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m syadoz
2020-01-12 03:01:59 UTC
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this was in the wsj a few years Ago and I thought of the plane shoot down




By CANDACE JACKSON

Fliers nostalgic for the golden era of air travel might want to book a trip to Anthony Toth's garage.

Mr. Toth has built a precise replica of a first-class cabin from a Pan Am World Airways 747 in the garage of his two-bedroom condo in Redondo Beach, Calif. The setup includes almost everything fliers in the late 1970s and 1980s would have found onboard: pairs of red-and-blue reclining seats, original overhead luggage bins and a curved, red-carpeted staircase.

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Brian L. Frank for The Wall Street Journal
A coffee maker with a Pan Am logo sits in the replica cabin Anthony Toth built in his Redondo Beach, Calif., home

Once comfortably ensconced, Mr. Toth's visitors can sip beverages from the long-defunct airline's glasses, served with Pan Am logo swizzle sticks and napkins, plus salted almonds sealed in Pan Am wrappers. They can even peel open a set of plastic-wrapped, vintage Pan Am headphones and listen to original in-flight audio recordings from the era, piped in through the armrests.

Mr. Toth, a 42-year-old global sales director at United Airlines, has spent more than 20 years on his elaborate recreation of a Pan Am cabin, which includes a few economy-class seats, too. All told, Mr. Toth estimates he has spent as much as $50,000 on the project, which he hopes someday to turn into a museum.

"The brand was so powerful, he says. "They had this uncompromising standard of service."

[PanAm Bag]
To find artifacts from the airline, which ceased operation in 1991, Mr. Toth spends his vacations trekking out to an area in the Mojave Desert known as the airplane boneyard, where retired aircraft are stripped for parts. When he can't buy an original Pan Am item in good condition, like seat covers, he recruits professionals to create suitable stand-ins.

Julie Fisher, a friend of Mr. Toth's, says one time she got a call from Mr. Toth saying he'd heard about a source for headsets in Bangkok. A few days later, the two of them hopped a plane to Thailand for the weekend to track them down. (As an airline employee, Mr. Toth can usually fly himself and a friend for free if space is available.)

In the 1930s, Pan Am became the first U.S. airline to fly internationally, and in the 1970s, the first to fly Boeing 747 jumbo jets. Pan Am was once synonymous with international jet-setting, with upper-deck dining rooms and flight attendants decked out in crisp blue uniforms, high heels and white gloves. First-class travelers were served out of silver-plated martini pitchers. A parade of linen-covered food carts made its way down the aisle at dinnertime.

The airline began struggling financially in the 1970s as fuel prices soared and competition on international routes escalated. Still, Pan Am made few cutbacks to its first-class service.

In 1988, a Pan Am flight was bombed by terrorists above Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people. The airline declared bankruptcy in 1991. A commuter airline called Pan Am Clipper Connection operated out of New Hampshire using the company's blue globe logo until last year. United Airlines, Mr. Toth's current employer, purchased the Pacific division of Pan Am in 1985.

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Hopping On Board Pan Am

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Anthony Toth has been working on his replica of a first-class Pan Am cabin for 20 years. Candace Jackson tours Toth's homage to the golden era of air travel.

M. Kelly Cusack, a fellow Pan Am enthusiast and memorabilia collector who worked for the airline from 1980 to 1991, runs a Web site that chronicles the airline's history. He met Mr. Toth several years ago while working at United and says he doesn't know of many other collectors who've gone as far in reconstructing an actual airplane cabin in their home.

Mr. Toth's obsession with Pan Am began in the 1970s when he was growing up in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, about 45 minutes from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. Every summer, he and his family traveled to see relatives in Rome and Budapest, where his parents were from, usually flying in Pan Am's coach class. "There was no other aircraft I could walk on board that intrigued me more than the Pan Am cabin," he says. "Everything symbolized something. That meant something to me as a youngster."

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“ Pan Am occupies a dear corner of my heart. My family immigrated to the U.S. on Pan Am ... The idea any American carrier today dares to call any part of its service "first class" is an abomination. There are those of us who remember Pan Am first class. ”

— Jim Parsons
As a child, Mr. Toth would save items that most passengers considered to be trash, such as cardboard coasters and paper tray linings from coach meal services. On every flight, he would carry a camera and shoot three or four rolls of film documenting the aircraft's interior. He lugged a boxy tape recorder to capture in-flight audio by cranking the dial on his armrest up to level 12 and placing the microphone to the earphones so he could listen to the airline's music selection back home.

For his 10th birthday, Mr. Toth says he persuaded his parents to sign him up for an annual subscription to the Official Airline Guide, which lists flight timetables and is typically used by travel agents. When he was 12, he created a 20-foot mock-up of the interior of a Pan Am first-class cabin in his family's basement, making seats out of wood. "This consumed my world," he says.

Since his 20s, Mr. Toth has worked for United in a variety of positions and places, including Chicago, Raleigh, N.C., and San Francisco. He created early versions of his airline cabin in the living rooms of various apartments and houses he rented when he was in his 20s and 30s.

View Full Image

Pan Am
Brian L. Frank for The Wall Street Journal
Anthony Toth built a replica Pan Am first-class cabin in his garage.

Pan Am
Pan Am
Two years ago, Mr. Toth, who is single, purchased his first home. He says he looked at nearly 50 apartments before finding one with a slightly oversize garage that would have enough space for his cabin configuration.

There's one modern update: Mr. Toth installed a flat-panel TV instead of the old projection version that would have been used in the 1980s so he could watch movies and TV using his Pan Am headphones. Airline buffs will notice that the walls actually are from a DC-10 aircraft, not a 747, though he hopes to change that soon.

While the cabin isn't open to the public, friends and fellow airline enthusiasts frequently hang out there, he says. Beverage service is included in a visit, as is a custom souvenir boarding pass and first-class luggage tags that look identical to Pan Am's from the early 1980s. Occasionally, he'll prepare a meal in the galley, though usually he orders takeout and serves it on his vintage Pan Am china and serving trays. Mr. Toth has even hosted his United colleagues for corporate meetings.

"His passion for the industry goes well beyond what [he has] at home," says Mr. Toth's boss, Jeff Foland, senior vice president of world-wide sales and distribution for United.

Today's first-class cabins, with reclining, lie-flat seats, on-demand gourmet meals and individual televisions have advanced far beyond the lower-tech cabins of the 1970s and 1980s. But today's airline service and branding just aren't the same, says Mr. Toth.

In the good old days, "I didn't want to sleep when I flew," he says. "I wanted to spend every minute enjoying everything that was happening."

Write to Candace Jackson at ***@wsj.com
Mk5000
2020-01-12 03:09:00 UTC
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this was in the wsj a few years Ago and I thought of the plane shoot down
By CANDACE JACKSON
Fliers nostalgic for the golden era of air travel might want to book a
trip to Anthony Toth's garage.
Mr. Toth has built a precise replica of a first-class cabin from a Pan Am
World Airways 747 in the garage of his two-bedroom condo in Redondo
Beach, Calif. The setup includes almost everything fliers in the late
1970s and 1980s would have found onboard: pairs of red-and-blue reclining
seats, original overhead luggage bins and a curved, red-carpeted staircase.
View Slideshow
[SB10001424052748704335904574495622113040760]
Brian L. Frank for The Wall Street Journal
A coffee maker with a Pan Am logo sits in the replica cabin Anthony Toth
built in his Redondo Beach, Calif., home
Once comfortably ensconced, Mr. Toth's visitors can sip beverages from
the long-defunct airline's glasses, served with Pan Am logo swizzle
sticks and napkins, plus salted almonds sealed in Pan Am wrappers. They
can even peel open a set of plastic-wrapped, vintage Pan Am headphones
and listen to original in-flight audio recordings from the era, piped in
through the armrests.
Mr. Toth, a 42-year-old global sales director at United Airlines, has
spent more than 20 years on his elaborate recreation of a Pan Am cabin,
which includes a few economy-class seats, too. All told, Mr. Toth
estimates he has spent as much as $50,000 on the project, which he hopes
someday to turn into a museum.
"The brand was so powerful, he says. "They had this uncompromising standard of service."
[PanAm Bag]
To find artifacts from the airline, which ceased operation in 1991, Mr.
Toth spends his vacations trekking out to an area in the Mojave Desert
known as the airplane boneyard, where retired aircraft are stripped for
parts. When he can't buy an original Pan Am item in good condition, like
seat covers, he recruits professionals to create suitable stand-ins.
Julie Fisher, a friend of Mr. Toth's, says one time she got a call from
Mr. Toth saying he'd heard about a source for headsets in Bangkok. A few
days later, the two of them hopped a plane to Thailand for the weekend to
track them down. (As an airline employee, Mr. Toth can usually fly
himself and a friend for free if space is available.)
In the 1930s, Pan Am became the first U.S. airline to fly
internationally, and in the 1970s, the first to fly Boeing 747 jumbo
jets. Pan Am was once synonymous with international jet-setting, with
upper-deck dining rooms and flight attendants decked out in crisp blue
uniforms, high heels and white gloves. First-class travelers were served
out of silver-plated martini pitchers. A parade of linen-covered food
carts made its way down the aisle at dinnertime.
The airline began struggling financially in the 1970s as fuel prices
soared and competition on international routes escalated. Still, Pan Am
made few cutbacks to its first-class service.
In 1988, a Pan Am flight was bombed by terrorists above Lockerbie,
Scotland, killing 270 people. The airline declared bankruptcy in 1991. A
commuter airline called Pan Am Clipper Connection operated out of New
Hampshire using the company's blue globe logo until last year. United
Airlines, Mr. Toth's current employer, purchased the Pacific division of Pan Am in 1985.
video
Hopping On Board Pan Am
2:41
Anthony Toth has been working on his replica of a first-class Pan Am
cabin for 20 years. Candace Jackson tours Toth's homage to the golden era of air travel.
M. Kelly Cusack, a fellow Pan Am enthusiast and memorabilia collector who
worked for the airline from 1980 to 1991, runs a Web site that chronicles
the airline's history. He met Mr. Toth several years ago while working at
United and says he doesn't know of many other collectors who've gone as
far in reconstructing an actual airplane cabin in their home.
Mr. Toth's obsession with Pan Am began in the 1970s when he was growing
up in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, about 45 minutes from Cleveland Hopkins
International Airport. Every summer, he and his family traveled to see
relatives in Rome and Budapest, where his parents were from, usually
flying in Pan Am's coach class. "There was no other aircraft I could walk
on board that intrigued me more than the Pan Am cabin," he says.
"Everything symbolized something. That meant something to me as a youngster."
Journal Community
discuss
“ Pan Am occupies a dear corner of my heart. My family immigrated to the
U.S. on Pan Am ... The idea any American carrier today dares to call any
part of its service "first class" is an abomination. There are those of
us who remember Pan Am first class. ”
— Jim Parsons
As a child, Mr. Toth would save items that most passengers considered to
be trash, such as cardboard coasters and paper tray linings from coach
meal services. On every flight, he would carry a camera and shoot three
or four rolls of film documenting the aircraft's interior. He lugged a
boxy tape recorder to capture in-flight audio by cranking the dial on his
armrest up to level 12 and placing the microphone to the earphones so he
could listen to the airline's music selection back home.
For his 10th birthday, Mr. Toth says he persuaded his parents to sign him
up for an annual subscription to the Official Airline Guide, which lists
flight timetables and is typically used by travel agents. When he was 12,
he created a 20-foot mock-up of the interior of a Pan Am first-class
cabin in his family's basement, making seats out of wood. "This consumed
my world," he says.
Since his 20s, Mr. Toth has worked for United in a variety of positions
and places, including Chicago, Raleigh, N.C., and San Francisco. He
created early versions of his airline cabin in the living rooms of
various apartments and houses he rented when he was in his 20s and 30s.
View Full Image
Pan Am
Brian L. Frank for The Wall Street Journal
Anthony Toth built a replica Pan Am first-class cabin in his garage.
Pan Am
Pan Am
Two years ago, Mr. Toth, who is single, purchased his first home. He says
he looked at nearly 50 apartments before finding one with a slightly
oversize garage that would have enough space for his cabin configuration.
There's one modern update: Mr. Toth installed a flat-panel TV instead of
the old projection version that would have been used in the 1980s so he
could watch movies and TV using his Pan Am headphones. Airline buffs will
notice that the walls actually are from a DC-10 aircraft, not a 747,
though he hopes to change that soon.
While the cabin isn't open to the public, friends and fellow airline
enthusiasts frequently hang out there, he says. Beverage service is
included in a visit, as is a custom souvenir boarding pass and
first-class luggage tags that look identical to Pan Am's from the early
1980s. Occasionally, he'll prepare a meal in the galley, though usually
he orders takeout and serves it on his vintage Pan Am china and serving
trays. Mr. Toth has even hosted his United colleagues for corporate meetings.
"His passion for the industry goes well beyond what [he has] at home,"
says Mr. Toth's boss, Jeff Foland, senior vice president of world-wide
sales and distribution for United.
Today's first-class cabins, with reclining, lie-flat seats, on-demand
gourmet meals and individual televisions have advanced far beyond the
lower-tech cabins of the 1970s and 1980s. But today's airline service and
branding just aren't the same, says Mr. Toth.
In the good old days, "I didn't want to sleep when I flew," he says. "I
wanted to spend every minute enjoying everything that was happening."
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m syadoz
2020-01-12 03:09:54 UTC
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- interesting -
Mk5000
2020-01-12 03:18:29 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
- interesting -
Trump doesn’t do as many finger circles anymore when he’s speaking.
Too busy holding on to the lectern for balance now.


Mk5000

And I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Now I ain't got time to discuss the weather,
And how long it's going to last
And I ain't got time to do no studying —Barrett Strong, Janie Bradford,
Norman Whitfield,
m syadoz
2020-01-12 03:30:12 UTC
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I hurt. Walking completely unaffected, mostly a problem sitting which is why I think it’s a bruise

It hurts in only one discrete spot standing, and you have to press on it to reproduce it


I just went for a mammo the month before the fall and everything was negative. Should I wait a while before going to check it out or wait a little longer to see if it goes away. —shells 4292
Mk5000
2020-01-12 03:35:34 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
I hurt. Walking completely unaffected, mostly a problem sitting which is
why I think it’s a bruise
It hurts in only one discrete spot standing, and you have to press on it to reproduce it
I just went for a mammo the month before the fall and everything was
negative. Should I wait a while before going to check it out or wait a
little longer to see if it goes away. —shells 4292
Imgur List of the ten best memes of the decade
Really drab

Mk5000



Chris: They call me the Black Plague.
Rochelle: Isn't that an insult?
Julius: I'm just glad you winnin'. We don't wanna know the things they call
Jackie Robinson.
Narrator: If you really wanna know, ask Michael Richards or Don
Imus.—everybody hates new years eve, everybody hates chris
m syadoz
2020-01-12 03:39:52 UTC
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Was one whole hip/joint replaced?



Or rod in femur?




Michael Kelso: [wearing Eric's pants] Well, the joke's on you, Eric. I'm wearing your pants, and I'm not wearing any underwear.
Eric: Kelso, the last time I wore those pants, I wasn't wearing any underwear.
Michael Kelso: [pulling off pants] Well played.—that 70s show
Mk5000
2020-01-12 03:45:08 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
Was one whole hip/joint replaced?
Or rod in femur?
Michael Kelso: [wearing Eric's pants] Well, the joke's on you, Eric. I'm
wearing your pants, and I'm not wearing any underwear.
Eric: Kelso, the last time I wore those pants, I wasn't wearing any underwear.
Michael Kelso: [pulling off pants] Well played.—that 70s show
Erik Prince is a bigger “national security grounds” issue then China is

Mk5000


Erik Prince claimed that Erik Prince told Steve Bannon about the meeting
with Dmitriev in January 2017, but Steve Bannon denied such a conversation
ever took place. Special Counsel could not determine who gave correct
information. What the report said :—erik prince
m syadoz
2020-01-12 03:49:16 UTC
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Putin our savior and hero!!
Sanctions lifted and krym... and more.

Either that, or world war 3




The Man With No Name: I think you people need a new sheriff.
Mk5000
2020-01-12 03:57:39 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
Putin our savior and hero!!
Sanctions lifted and krym... and more.
Either that, or world war 3
The Man With No Name: I think you people need a new sheriff.
I think you are implying barr tipped him off and he got away

Mk5000


5:
"update_kernel.sh" grew an "--lts-4_1" and "--lts-4_4" options, for
users who set this script up as a cron job "--lts" still points to
4.1.x but that will change in the next month.. —robert c nelson
m syadoz
2020-01-12 04:03:51 UTC
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This former Cobra pilot had another good Vet's Day piece about This about 5 years ago......


Weber originally competed on Brown’s season of The Bachelorette. He made it to the final three before getting his heart broken and having to leave the show.
Then, she showed up on Weber’s first night as the Bachelor and returned the wings that he had given her on her debut night as the Bachelorette.—christina montford
Mk5000
2020-01-12 04:08:12 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
This former Cobra pilot had another good Vet's Day piece about This about 5 years ago......
Weber originally competed on Brown’s season of The Bachelorette. He made
it to the final three before getting his heart broken and having to leave the show.
Then, she showed up on Weber’s first night as the Bachelor and returned
the wings that he had given her on her debut night as the Bachelorette.—christina montford
I cant remember but if i find the cite ill send it to you

When i got latex in my eyes, the websites said that one plant is more toxic
to the eyes and i coukd swear they said tropical was the strongest

Maybe the plants this month dont have enough latex maybe thats what they
need to metabolize

Mk5000

The actual number of people with latex allergy in the UK is not known, but
is growing. Studies here suggest that about 40 per cent of patients at
Great Ormond Street Hospital (GOSH) have antibodies to latex, especially
children with spina bifida or children who undergo multiple operations.—
gosh dot nsh dot uk
m syadoz
2020-01-12 04:10:05 UTC
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Whiplash

Same place


Our research suggests that up to half of the remaining patients are at risk of reactions to latex. More people are being exposed to latex proteins which may explain the increase. In the general population, up to five per cent of people are believed to have an allergy to latex although, as they do not show any symptoms, they are probably unaware.
Mk5000
2020-01-12 04:16:42 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
Whiplash
Same place
Our research suggests that up to half of the remaining patients are at
risk of reactions to latex. More people are being exposed to latex
proteins which may explain the increase. In the general population, up to
five per cent of people are believed to have an allergy to latex
although, as they do not show any symptoms, they are probably unaware.
Imgur, This “best”?
Geez then I can’t imagine what was “worst”


Mk5000


The kinds of taboos, deviancy and violence Eminem promotes, he claims, are
exactly the same kind constantly on display on shows like Jerry Springer,
where Springer literally pits unstable people against each other on
camera.—tom barnes
m syadoz
2020-01-12 04:20:35 UTC
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LOL total morons

If it doesn’t, you’ve left the participle dangling, as well as your readers.
P.S. You may find it amusing to know that I, like David Ogilvy, have never learned the formal rules of grammar. I learned to write by reading obsessively at an early age, but when it came time to learn the “rules,” I tuned out. —dave clark
Mk5000
2020-01-12 04:30:15 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
LOL total morons
If it doesn’t, you’ve left the participle dangling, as well as your readers.
P.S. You may find it amusing to know that I, like David Ogilvy, have
never learned the formal rules of grammar. I learned to write by reading
obsessively at an early age, but when it came time to learn the “rules,”
I tuned out. —dave clark
Are you implying that Barr told SDNY to get him at the airport?
I don’t believe this.
Barr is on the same side as Giuliani and Trump.
He’d have no reason to want to see him indicted.

Anyway I didn’t read that Barr was at SDNY yesterday,
I read that he met with Rupert Murdoch yesterday to ask him to do better
polls about trump on fox.
Because that’s what a AG does.

Mk5000



Insp. Jacques Clouseau: And she does not think she is pretty... And I can
never tell her that she is pretty, otherwise...
Ponton: Otherwise what?
Insp. Jacques Clouseau: If she knew how pretty she is, she might choose
someone other than me.—pink oanther 2
m syadoz
2020-01-12 04:34:38 UTC
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Yea i just bet tge ayatollah watches documentaries and knows who the players are


Jon Stewart: [regarding the lawsuit against Napster] The judgment marks a key victory for the recording industry, in its aggressive battle against poor high school students and fun.
Mk5000
2020-01-12 04:43:30 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
Yea i just bet tge ayatollah watches documentaries and knows who the players are
Jon Stewart: [regarding the lawsuit against Napster] The judgment marks a
key victory for the recording industry, in its aggressive battle against
poor high school students and fun.
Good sign that people are finally noticing that the ayatollah never
actually says anything worthwhile, it’s just the same old lies and insults,
on repeat.


Mk5000

I'm just seeing the result. You're seeing the results. You've been asking
yourself, 'Why is it that he won't actually call Islamic jihadism, Islamic
jihadism? Why is it that he's so passionate about taking away your guns,
taking away your First Amendment, your right to speak the truth about this
great evil?' But that's because it works. That's because it's part of a
plan. That's because the left has always been more organized. They've had
playbooks because they have people that get paid in the ivory towers to
concoct these plans.—tim donnelly
m syadoz
2020-01-12 04:48:40 UTC
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There is probably no candidate more likely to push that button than biden


Ed Helms: July 14 is Bastille Day, when the people of France released the prisoners being held in the Bastille. Not just the *political* prisoners, mind you; *all* the prisoners.
Mk5000
2020-01-12 04:54:09 UTC
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Post by m syadoz
There is probably no candidate more likely to push that button than biden
Ed Helms: July 14 is Bastille Day, when the people of France released the
prisoners being held in the Bastille. Not just the *political* prisoners,
mind you; *all* the prisoners.
Oh we're talking about Rhode Island reds.
I want the rhode island and barred rock to be obtained at the same time and
place, so they are same age and can be raised together, it will be less
work that way.
I'm pretty sure I will ask my sister if she CAN go to a chicken/farm store
and buy a couple chicks for Ma.
I don't think they're available this weekend yet though, they don't start
being born until March.


Mk5000




Mount Desert Island Birds: Barred Owls Duetting, Bohemian Waxwings,
Blue-headed Vireo

Beech Mountain Acadia National Park, Hancock, US-ME
Apr 25, 2013 4:00 AM - 5:50 AM
Protocol: Traveling
4.0 mile(s)
Comments: The Good family celebrating Madeleine's 12th birthday with a
walk around Beech Mountain. Barred Owls duetting at the end of our walk
adding to the party we were having. Male and female territorial calls after
I called. They began with the lower pitch male call and then joined by
the higher pitch female. The male approached to about 75 feet than flew
off through the woods. Yellow-rumped warblers were softly calling and
responded nicely to phishing. A two Owl Day on my daughters B-day.
15 species—down east nature tours

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